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Subject: SAF Dangerous Times
Posted: September 06 2010 at 7:03am

This is not about jealousy or unbalance between the relationship between the top senders and the average florist.

It's about CUSTOMER RETENTION, not just yours, but for ALL.

It's about consumer confidence in an entire INDUSTRY.

This is an industry of growers, importers, wholesalers, retailers, airlines, trucking companies, service partners and suppliers.

The order gathering unscrupulous activities are being REWARDED in huge cash offerings and are being financed by the wire services by the MILLIONS of DOLLARS.

SAF and our voice have embraced a strategy of destruction.

If it's not addressed and brought under control we will continue to watch things erode.

Teleflora says "Save the Florists"

I challenge them to take the LEAD role here, and practice what they promote!

Take a stance! Our industry needs GOOD LEADERS that are focused on a sustainable future!
]]> Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:03:00 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258062&PID=50929#50929 Floristboard Main Forum : SAF Dangerous Times http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258062&PID=50928#50928 Author: bloomed
Subject: SAF Dangerous Times
Posted: September 06 2010 at 6:41am

Why SAF is DANGEROUS for our industry.

Recently SAF's CEO Peter Morgan published his opinion in Floral Management Magazine that he believes that Order Gatherers get it.

Peter has embraced a position that all florists should learn from the gatherers and apply some (if not all of their tactics) into our business models. Surely Peter does not make such comments uninformed. Peter undoubtedly understands the tactics that most of these "Gathering Operations" are utilizing.

They are advertising key words under thousands of local florists names online, they have introduced membership type fees to their check out processes where consumers credit cards are being re-billed automatically to enrolling them into program memberships for future discounts. Surely Peter understands that the gatherers are being PAID and REWARDED by the wire services by clearing MILLIONS of DOLLARS in credit cards at ZERO percent. He must know that these gatherers pay PENNIES in credit card transaction fees while the greater number of florists pay in quarters.

Peter can't be suggesting that retail florists SCAM their local customers to further erode consumer confidence, like the gatherers he so proudly endorses, could he?

SAF was formed and it's role is to be "The Voice of an Industry" This is our industry, growers, importers, wholesalers, florists and the suppliers for our trade.

Is the voice of our industry being heard? Who is he speaking for? Is he speaking for you?

Charles Kremp, who has been employed by Oasis to promote their products, introduce Oasis to florists and help them understand their products, acted as product ambassador for many industry products, former President of SAF, board member and Industry invited speaker for Wire Services told us in an opinion earlier this year that florists need to "STRETCH MARGINS".

Surely this has to be a JOKE. The message can't be this unrealistic, could it? What message is this sending?

What is Charles doing? My god at one point this man was the Poster Child of our industry. Does he really want florists to just casually stretch margins so we can finance order gathering? Does he really think consumers would fall for this?

Why are florists, growers, importers, suppliers and wire services supporting such a destructive path. Why is a company like Oasis standing behind such a suicidal unsustainable strategy?

Why would SAF nominate a company like Flowers Sent Today to be on the board of directors. Why would they nominate Scott Kremp, head of a company utilizing deceptive worded doorway pages proclaiming they may be located in hundreds of cities in which they are without operations?

Are these the best of the best in our industry?

Something is broken in our industry, and the VOICE we thought we had has been HIJACKED.

I suggest YOU ALL take a closer look at what is going on at SAF. Check your wire service statement, you'll see they are billing you for membership.

It's time to cancel that membership, because your funding your business DESTRUCTION!

Do you realize you out number the top senders roughly 150 to 1 ?

It's time the wire services stop rewarding the Order Gatherers who are eating away CONSUMER CONFIDENCE. It's costing our industry CUSTOMERS! Your customers.

It's time for a discussion on SAF

Peter acknowledged in the publication that order gathering is a lightning rod. We'll I suggest that by what Peter says in that article that he has just dumped GASOLINE on a fire raging out of control

It's time for Peter Moran, the Kremps and their locker room buddies to GO! It's time for SAF to take a proactive stance and CLEAN THINGS UP!

It's time you know the companies support their motives, so you can make a better decision on where you spend your dollars!

Hit em in their pocket book, because they've had their hand in yours!

You'll have your opinions, Now you know MINE!]]> Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:41:28 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258062&PID=50928#50928 Technology Talk : mas-Defection http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=616074&PID=50927#50927 Author: Retail
Subject: mas-Defection
Posted: August 28 2010 at 4:08am

looks like Teleflora is selling a lot of system you need one wire service looks like they will be around to support it]]> Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:08:53 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=616074&PID=50927#50927 Technology Talk : mas-Defection http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=616074&PID=50926#50926 Author: matthew
Subject: mas-Defection
Posted: August 28 2010 at 4:05am

looking or a system now, wanted to get away from wire service system what else out there]]> Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:05:14 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=616074&PID=50926#50926 Floristboard Main Forum : Fresh Flower Shop http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258060&PID=50925#50925 Author: SMALLTOWNTEXAS
Subject: Fresh Flower Shop
Posted: August 26 2010 at 6:59pm

Welcome to FloristBoard.

I checked out your site www.janesroses.com very nice.

Are we speaking to llya or Jane?

I loved your About Us story, very touching.

In your post you have San Francisco Flowers at the bottom, that link goes to your site, but it also in search results is a fake site for an OG which turns out to be our old friends (not) Just Flowers. Might confuse some folks, but then that's what the OG's try to do...isn't it.

Look forward to your post.

]]> Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:59:59 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258060&PID=50925#50925 Floristboard Main Forum : wire service vs no wire service http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258061&PID=50924#50924 Author: SMALLTOWNTEXAS
Subject: wire service vs no wire service
Posted: August 26 2010 at 6:36pm

Good for you FLOWERS!

]]> Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:36:44 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258061&PID=50924#50924 Floristboard Main Forum : wire service vs no wire service http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258061&PID=50923#50923 Author: **Flowers**
Subject: wire service vs no wire service
Posted: August 26 2010 at 10:00am

Having been a florist since 1985 I have seen wire services come and go.

And now them time has come for mine to GO.. my choice... back in the day you had to have a wire service to get & send your orders, now with the internet and web sites - it is not as important.

My shop has two major ones, and one is a real pain in the butt.. will NOT work with you or give you any kind of a break.. so guess what ?? bye bye..!!

We did the math from Mother's Day and lost our shorts because of this service- not only did we not get orders , we still have lots of the containers.. and the orders did not cover even cost.. oh sure we can send them back- pay shipping and a re-stocking fee. ! oh let me get right on that.. WHAT and lose more money with TF - I think NOT..

We are not ordering anymore coded product from them and they are going as soon as it happens..

Newbies in the business need to realize a wire service is not a must anymore...

have a great day all...

]]> Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:00:50 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258061&PID=50923#50923 Floristboard Main Forum : Super Good News http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258034&PID=50922#50922 Author: **Flowers**
Subject: Super Good News
Posted: August 26 2010 at 9:52am

We have been getting alot of orders lately from JF, BT ,FuF-

Yes they ask if we can fill and the $ amt. .. We tell them they HAVE to send via a wire service or we will not do it... the standard answer is "our system is down" --how stupid do they think we are ?? No paper trail = no pay..

So now I tell them if they can't send because the system is down - I very nicely tell them -- sorry our designer is down ! ! ha ha

]]> Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:52:24 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258034&PID=50922#50922 Floristboard Main Forum : Fresh Flower Shop http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258060&PID=50921#50921 Author: janesroses
Subject: Fresh Flower Shop
Posted: August 26 2010 at 1:55am

Creating attractive and unique floral designs with the highest customer reviews and praises in the Flowers]]> Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:55:43 +0000 http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258060&PID=50921#50921 Advertising Board : Candelabra Glassware Hire????? http://forums.floristboard.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1258059&PID=50919#50919 Author: WEPH
Subject: Candelabra Glassware Hire?????
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